APL CEO Danny Townsend: “The atmosphere at the Socceroos live sites exists every weekend across the A-League”

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It has now reached that critical point in the domestic football calendar where the Australian Professional Leagues (APL) – the sporting body in charge of the A-Leagues – must capitalise on the momentum set by an impressive Socceroos showing at the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

Without a doubt, the onus is on the APL to transform the buzz generated by the Socceroos into fans itching to be a part of the action both at the ground and at home. The storylines well and truly write themselves. For example, images of Central Coast Mariners starlet Garang Kuol’s near-equaliser late in the game against Argentina will remain entrenched in the minds of Socceroos fans for some time, and now they have their chance to witness the dynamic youngster in the flesh in an F3 Derby this weekend against the Newcastle Jets to further solidify their connection to the player and game as a whole. To put it plainly, Kuol’s denial by the arm of Argentina goalkeeper Emiliano Martinez may have signalled the end of the Socceroos’ campaign, but it marks a whole new beginning for Australian football.

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As confirmed by the APL, the restart of the A-League Men’s competition will see returning Socceroos celebrated with guards of honour in Sydney, Central Coast and Brisbane, on pitch presentations, and signing sessions (where fans will be encouraged to wear their Socceroos jersey) in and amongst a plethora of physical and digital marketing.

Accompanied by a slogan – “Where Socceroos Are Made” – and campaign image showcasing each member of the Socceroos squad that has come through the A-League Men, the restart of the season is perched readily to add to the resurgent crowd numbers already notched this season.

To learn more about the APL’s efforts to make the most of the good will earnt by the Socceroos, APL CEO Danny Townsend chatted with Soccerscene to gain an insight into how the A-Leagues will effectively embrace the fearlessness and pride elicited by the Socceroos to take the game to new heights.

Townsend

How does the APL plan to capitalise on the momentum set by the Socceroos following their 2022 World Cup performance?

Danny Townsend: We’ve got many a different strategic initiative aligned to try and convert those interested fans into the A-Leagues, both short, medium, and long-term. But I think the important thing is we’ve put into place the foundational requirements to take advantage of it from the unbundling almost two years ago.

We’ve built a strength that will enable us to connect with those fans, bring them into our stadiums, and give them a product that they can engage with well into the future. That starts with the financial security of the professional game which we managed shore up through our capital raise process with Silver Lake, but also the media deal with Paramount that assured that the financial performance of the game was underpinned for the next five years. Those two things then enabled us to invest in our KEEPUP network and digital proposition that will allow us to connect.

So, there’s not one single solution to transferring that interest but there’s certainly a lot of strategic initiatives that will play out to take advantage of it.

With the returning A-League Men season set to celebrate the competition’s World Cup participants this weekend, what was the APL’s thinking during the Socceroos’ journey to the Round of 16?

Danny Townsend: There’s a lot of different sorts of emotions that you experience at that time, I think one of them was validation. The A-Leagues owners have committed over the long term both financially and with other resources around developing young football talent, and with 65% of those players in Qatar coming through A-League academies it was something that we could all be proud of obviously. Especially having the 8 players there – who set the record for the most current A-League Men representatives at a World Cup – was great, but also having 21 of those players actually having played in the A-League as part of their football journey is something that again demonstrates that we are on the right track and we really need to continue to sustain that commitment to development. But certainly, the young players playing in the A-League Men and Women are the Socceroos and Matildas of the future.

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With the A-Leagues now being run by the clubs for nearly two years, what opportunities do you feel this has opened up in terms of development pathways and providing chances for youngsters to come through?

Danny Townsend: Well, I think that we’ve got to remind ourselves that the A-Leagues academy systems are only 7 or 8 years old, so we’re seeing players coming through now who’ve had the majority of their football education in the A-League setups and I think the results are a consequence of that investment.

Although, that investment shouldn’t sit squarely on the shoulders of 12 private investors, it needs to be a collective effort from FA, the government, ourselves, and other stakeholders in the game to ensure that our men and women youth teams at national level remain competitive on the world stage and continue to have a greater impact on the global game. And that’s something that only football can do. The scenes we saw across the country over this last month are really a result of us competing in what truly a global game and competing at the highest level. So, it’s going to take sustained investment and collective effort and we’re certainly playing our part.

Just touching on those scenes across the country, has there been an effort to capitalise on the interest of those Socceroos supporters at the live sites and potentially give them discounts to games or free tickets? What’s the approach been like to that?

Danny Townsend: It’s more so engagement. We certainly want them to come to our games, and you’ve only got to look at the demographic of the majority of those live sites are a reflection of what’s strong about our game. We’re the number 1 sport for under-35s in the country and they’re largely those populating those sites along with late teens and early-20-year-olds who are demonstrating what joy can come from supporting football. And we need all of those fans to pick a football team; to pick an A-Leagues team and go out and support them week in, week out because that atmosphere that was existing in those live sites exists every weekend across the country in the A-League.

So, we’ve got the capability now from a digital and data infrastructure standpoint to capture them, engage them, and then deliver them a live experience that keeps them coming back. We’ve got plans for ticket offers and the plan for this weekend around encouraging fans to come out and recognise those Socceroos and watch them play in the flesh across the country, so there’s an opportunity to plan ahead.

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Obviously 16 years ago the Socceroos qualified for the Round of 16, and now, the 2022 group has matched and arguably bettered their efforts. How is the APL looking to embrace and broadcast this generation of the Socceroos? What’s the message you want to put across to football fans and casual sporting fans alike?

Danny Townsend: I think it was a validation of the fact that we’ve always known the A-League to be quality. Graham Arnold mentioned it in his press conference that, for whatever reason, the perception is that the A-League in Australia is not at a high standard but we’ve proven that it is. He has the best oversight of leagues because he’s watching them week in, week out in his role as the Socceroos head coach, and he’s made it clear that the A-League is up there with that second tier of competitions in Europe.

So, we’ve got a lot to be proud of in terms of what our domestic product is, we just need to get behind it as a footballing public and give it the credit it’s due and go watch it. Because when you watch it, you’ll realise that it is great quality and there’s some really exciting talent developing here that’s playing week in, week out.

Obviously, the APL as an organisation do not want to linger on the past in terms of how the sport was previously governed, but what have you learnt from previous administrations that you want to improve on in terms of capitalising on this type of momentum?

Danny Townsend: It just takes investment. We’re at the beginning of an investment cycle for the game and that’s why we raised the capital. We wanted to ensure that we were able to do the things that we know the name game needs to step change and realise its potential. We don’t have the luxury of a multi-billion-dollar broadcast deal like the other codes have, so we’ve got to craft our own economic future and we’re doing that through things we’re putting in place.

It is a parallel effort on many different levels to grow the game and we can’t do it alone; we need to do it in partnership with the FA. There’s been a lot of talk about the cost of playing at grassroots level and it’s our responsibility to work with FA on inverting that pyramid and really generating the dollars at the top of the pyramid and having that trickle down rather than the opposite.

So, there’s lots to do, and I think the FA played their role in the journey of the professional game for many years and that set the foundation for us now to take that forward, and we’ll continue to work with them on developing the game further.

We’re excited about what the impact of the Socceroos’ performances all means for this weekend’s games. And as we’re heading towards the traditional summer school holiday period, which is a strong attendance period for us, I think we’ve got some wind in our sails and the Women’s World Cup next year will be another benchmark moment for the game that will be huge. So, lots to look forward to.

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Yarraville Glory FC: Building Community Through Football

For Yarraville Glory FC, football isn’t just about competition—it’s about connection. Whether through the partnerships with Mells Football Academy & Summer Holiday Football, or fundraising efforts like Think Pink, the club is creating more than just players; it’s building a stronger, more inclusive community.

Speaking with Soccerscene, President of Yarraville Glory FC Jim Babatzanis discusses how the club is making football accessible for all and turning the game into a powerful tool for junior growth and family bonding.

Can you tell us about the club’s mission when it comes to community involvement? How has that shaped Yarraville Glory’s identity?

Jim Babatzanis: Our goal is to get everyone together—parents, kids, seniors—all involved together. We want to bring it back to when we played as kids, when you would stay at the ground all day, and parents would connect with parents from other teams. It’s about making the club feel like a family, not just a community. We’re starting to bring that back slowly, and we can already see the positive impact.

How do you ensure that football at Yarraville Glory FC is accessible and inclusive for people of all backgrounds and abilities?

Jim Babatzanis: We’ve done indigenous training; we’ve done all different types of training. Last year, we had African community leaders come in and have a chat with us as well. We want to include everyone because, at the end of the day, we’re all the same—our differences don’t matter. 

Yarraville Glory FC has recently formed an official partnership with Mells Football Academy. What does this collaboration mean for the club, and how does it fit into the club’s long-term vision?

Jim Babatzanis: For us, this partnership provides more training for our juniors in a smaller, more intimate environment. Coaches will be handling 15 kids and aren’t able to coach individually; they have to coach for a team environment. For us, the vision is for us to guide our juniors all the way to the senior team. George Mells, who has played in the A-League and overseas, has helped us in these academies, bringing invaluable experience to help develop young players. As well as this, James Golding, our technical director, his work that he does with us is unbelievable. I’m most excited about seeing the kids improve their skills and play at the highest possible level they can achieve.

Could you please tell us a bit about the Summer Holiday Football Camp? What should players and parents expect from this camp, and could you walk us through how the camp was structured and what makes it a unique opportunity for young footballers?

Jim Babatzanis: Firstly, it gives them time to be away from technology and be out and about, and George creates a fun environment for the kids. They spend the day there playing, training, learning new skills, and meeting new people as well. It’s not just kids from our club that go to it; kids from multiple clubs come for the camp. Every school holiday, every term, they have these camps available.

How does the Summer Holiday Football Camp align with the broader goals of Yarraville Glory FC in terms of developing young players, fostering team spirit, and instilling a love for football in the community?

Jim Babatzanis: Keeping the kids playing the game, the game that they enjoy. For me, the more the kids play the game, the more they fall in love with it. I know from my kids, even though they play in the girls, when they’re not there, they won’t be as inclined to play it. Kids these days have different varieties to pick from. Keeping them in love with it, that’s all it is.

Could you walk me through the origins of the GO Family Program and how the partnership was formed? What were the initial goals of this collaboration, and how did it all come together?

Jim Babatzanis: The GO Family Program was formed through the council and Football Victoria. They approached us and other clubs like Maribyrnong Swift and Footscray United Rangers on if we would like to participate, and we agreed. Our first term had solid numbers, but the second term was a bit harder since many kids were already training with their clubs. Still, it’s a great initiative; families that have enjoyed it and had the chance to have a kick with their kids, usually the parents don’t get that opportunity.

The Think Pink campaign has been a significant initiative for the club. Could you share more about how it started and how the club involves its members and supporters in the fundraising efforts?

Jim Babatzanis: Pink Ribbon Day started a long time ago, way past my time being in the committee and president. It began after one of our supporters wives battled breast cancer. We wanted to give back to a good cause. Everyone gets involved—volunteering, donating, and participating in activities like jumping castles, cake stalls, and popcorn machines. One of the most memorable initiatives was when our technical director, James, shaved his long hair to raise funds. The kids loved it, even spray-painting his hair pink before cutting it off. 

Could you share a memorable moment from a fundraising event that really showed the community spirit of Yarraville Glory FC?

Jim Babatzanis: That hair-shaving event was probably one of the most memorable events on the pink ribbon day. Seeing all the kids having a laugh, the parents watching on, and the whole community being involved—it was a special moment. 

Thinking back on your time as president, what has been the most fulfilling or rewarding experience for you when it comes to the club’s work within the community? 

Jim Babatzanis: Growing our junior bases. When our committee took over, we had 180 registered players at the club. Now, we have 420 players and counting. Our female program as well; we went from two female teams to nine since my presidency. For us, that’s been huge, and for me personally, that has been really rewarding.

With the club’s focus on both sporting excellence and community engagement, how do you manage to strike a balance between those two aspects? 

Jim Babatzanis: It’s hard because there is a fine line you’re tinkering on. Kids want to play for fun, but they also want to win. We work to nurture both aspects by improving our coaching staff and training methods. Our technical director, James, plays a big role in this, assisting our coaches in developing the kids. Knowing that each team is different and being around it is important. Feeling the vibe of the team and parents can be challenging, as the president when it comes to winning and losing. You don’t want to lose that community feel of the club.

A-League Transfer Revenue Soars as Youth Development Takes Centre Stage

The A-League reported last week that Australia’s international transfer revenue has increased by a staggering 1344% over the past three years.

With 2023/24 recording transfer revenue of $16.5 million and 2024/25 reaching $16.9 million, these figures represent a significant improvement compared to the 2022 season, which recorded just $4.17 million in revenue.

This growth coincides with recent data from the A-League showing that the 2024/25 season has seen 39% of A-League minutes played by under-23 players, compared to just 18% in the 2023/24 season and 13% in the 2022/23 season.

This indicates that this season alone has seen a 26% increase in overall minutes played by young players since 2022.

The result of this rise in youth talent is evident with Australia qualifying for the Under-20 Men’s World Cup for the first time in more than a decade and, just last week, lifting the trophy at the Under-20 Asian Cup.

The A-League’s recent success in youth playing time is directly intertwined with the rise in transfer revenue.

This increase in youth participation has emerged as a silver lining from tough times in the league.

In the most recent “Off the Pitch” podcast from Soccerscene, guest speaker Gary Cole, current president of Football Coaches Australia, provided his professional insight into one of these situations.

He explained that the COVID-19 crisis and the financial constraints placed on A-League clubs forced them to look inwards for talent.

Another recent catalyst has been the reduction in funding from the Australian Professional Leagues.

With funding decreasing from $2 million to $500,000 in 2024, clubs have faced difficult financial decisions regarding their budgets.

Players from club academies or even NPL clubs are far more cost-effective for club budgets than more expensive signings.

Additionally, their selling and transfer value provides a huge boost to club revenues.

These events are not coincidental but are catalysts for the rise in homegrown talent testing their skills and showcasing their quality on the big stage.

It demonstrates how, during tough times for the league, supporting youth development has become a key part of the league’s success and represents a profitable and dynamic opportunity for the future.

This opportunity to produce and showcase players to increase Australian youth football standards and therefore transfer value is a proven strategy in football.

Ajax’s Academy is renowned for developing class players and has for many years been a funnel for building their academy graduates and selling players for a profit.

In South America, Brazilian and Argentinian clubs such as River Plate, Boca Juniors, Fluminense and Flamengo have been persistent sources of footballing talent.

Selling stars like Vinicius and Julian Alvarez to Europe for significant financial benefits while still maintaining a healthy domestic talent structure and international success.

Importantly, the common factor in these successful systems is regular first-team minutes at their clubs and even on the international stage.

The evidence from A-League transfer revenues is fitting this pattern.

One must point out that, though this is a great revenue source and a way to place Australian football on the map, this focus can have an adverse effect on the domestic scene.

Football fans are passionate about their clubs, and nothing brings out more pride than watching one of their own prospects grow and play for them.

To use academy players primarily as revenue-building prospects can undermine the important place they have at the club and the overall goal of academies.

This could potentially alienate fan bases, impacting popularity and therefore the quality and financial interests of the league.

Transfer revenue should not be the central response to the league’s current financial burdens.

Being realistic about the position of the A-League in the international football hierarchy is crucial, though ambitions for the league to climb cannot be sidelined.

The rise in player transfer revenue presents an enticing prospect for investment and brings increased popularity.

Players themselves also have their own dreams and aspirations that must be taken into account, which can also encourage transfers and revenue.

Currently, the A-League has the unique opportunity to give its promising young players the chance to play top-level football while producing significant revenue and attracting sponsorship.

Australians playing overseas and at home, puts Australia on the map and solidifies our rise in the footballing scene.

If the focus on homegrown talent is managed well, Australian football will reap huge rewards.

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