Q&A with Heidelberg United Technical Director Daniel Girardi

Daniel Girardi is the current technical director at Heidelberg United FC. He has previously worked at various clubs across Australian football, including Adelaide United, where he was a scout and an assistant to then head coach of the youth team Michael Valkanis.

Girardi has transferred the wealth of knowledge he has picked up over the course of his coaching career to spearhead the current youth development program at Heidelberg.

Girardi, alongside other coaches and staff, have implemented a philosophy at the club that focuses on critical areas to develop young footballers.

For example, it’s not enough to just develop a footballer, but rather a ‘total footballer’ that is a good person, friend and member of the community. Alongside having the technical, tactical and physical skills, Girardi believes it is necessary to exhibit good behaviours on a consistent basis.

Training programs are based around emphasising individual development within a team context, whilst coaches working with their different squads are encouraged to collaborate together as a unit to focus on the long-term development of players.

In a wide-ranging interview with Soccerscene, Girardi further explains why the youth development setup at Heidelberg has been successful, his career progression, the importance of a national second division, his own views on coaching standards in Australia and more.

First of all, tell me a little bit about your personal career in football and how you ended up in coaching?

I started playing in Adelaide. Like any junior you go through the ranks of a club, I went through Adelaide Blue Eagles. I went on to play with the senior team, from there I had coaching opportunities but I was very naïve and I didn’t want to take them. My senior coach at the time, Zoran Karadzic, said to me ‘Daniel, to be an even better player you need to understand the little intricate things, things that you don’t see that we need to see as coaches’. So at an early age of 17, he asked me to coach a junior team (under 8’s) so I did that while I was still playing. Then from there I went into further coaching, I became a junior technical director and coached all the way through from juniors to eventually senior head coach.

From there I moved to Adelaide United, Michael Valkanis asked me to come and join the team there. I joined United as a scout, as well as an assistant to the youth team, and that’s where my football mindset and career met as one. I honestly thought to myself ‘you can do this as a full-time job’. In Australia it’s very difficult, but at the same time you can put a program together to make it work. I tried to make it work now in my daily life, but again it’s very difficult. You have to coach early mornings and late at night, but it’s a passion that’s why you do it.

At Adelaide, I got to work with Josep Gombau, Michael Valkanis, Angelo Costanzo, Guillermo Amor and Pau Martí. Between all of them, my acceleration as a coach grew exponentially. Just the understanding, the little things that they can teach you about what to look for in a player, how to run, when they should pass the ball, timing, things like that, where in Australia we are not there yet. It was good for me to understand that the game is very simple but it’s the hardest thing to do. People talk about playing simple, but what does that mean?

There are 6 basic style rules that govern football throughout the world. If I see you, you see me, there’s a line of pass, we pass that ball. If there’s no line of pass, I need to run with the ball in order to find the next line. After that, the third rule being if you can’t find a line of pass and you can’t run with the ball, you need to protect the ball. We never player square – that allows counter attacks. Receiving always with your furthest foot so that you can face forward and no two players should be in the same line.

Would you say that standards and methods in local coaching have improved over the period of time since you began coaching?

That’s a hard question. I think the general understanding has improved. People are watching a lot more football, they understand they need to keep the ball and not give it away. But actually understanding the way you keep the ball is very different. In Europe, from a very young age, positionally, kids know where they are on the pitch. Kids know where they shouldn’t be, they know who they should pass to and when they shouldn’t pass to those players.

In Australia, people just see a pass and they just pass the ball. They are not understanding that if I pass the ball the wrong way to my teammate, not to his furthest foot, I’ve put them under pressure straightaway. If I don’t pass that ball with the right ball speed, I’ve put them under pressure straightway. When a player runs with the ball, does he or she use the furthest foot so their body is between the opposition player and the ball? What is the player’s orientation to the player with the ball and without? What’s their orientation to the defender? So, there’s the little things, I don’t think the level of detail is there in Australia yet.

Tell me a little bit about your current role at Heidelberg and your overall involvement in the current youth set up at the club. How did it come about?

I was speaking with George Katsakis a couple of years ago and he asked me if I was interested to join the club as technical director. At the time, I said yes I’d definitely be interested. Heidelberg is a big club. Heidelberg in the last five-six years is one of the best clubs in the country, because of the guidance from the board, Steve (president) and George as senior coach. So, I joined knowing that we are trying to develop players for that senior team. That’s what the goal always is.

However, we focus on how we can accelerate their growth in order to get them to the first team quicker, but at the same time make sure they are our juniors. We don’t want to go and continuously buy players, we don’t want to continuously bring players in from other clubs, we want to bring through our own. We want to have a long-term culture of developing Heidelberg boys and girls. Boys and girls that live in the area, that live and breathe wanting to be a part of Heidelberg, of Alexandros, it means something. To have players who start with our MiniRoos and give them every opportunity to progress into the junior setup and then to the seniors. That’s the main goal.

Heidelberg have strong teams at a junior and senior level across men’s and women’s competitions, what do you think is the formula behind this success in developing young talent at the club?

For me, 100%, having the facility continuously upgraded is so important. You need to have pitches, equipment and the club has always been willing to buy all these things. They’ve bought us new goals, new mini-goals, the smart goal system now, trackers, VEO and we’ve established a new collaboration with Oxidate – we are always cutting edge. So, we are trying to build that DNA and at the same time use technology effectively.

Importantly, we have really good coaches. Brian Vanega (U21s) who unfortunately had to leave due to family commitments, Jeff Olver who has come back to help the club, Renato Liberto (U19s), Adrian Mazzarella (U17s), Sinisha Ristevski (U16s), Jim Daglaras (U15s), Kai Maxfield (U14s); these are all coaches who have either got A licenses or B licenses. They all understand that we are trying not just to look at one team, the U17’s or U19’s or whatever. It’s a culture of looking more at the overall picture, the 200 boys and the 200 girls at the club and saying ‘how can we develop them as a group rather than individually?’ Anyone can go and kick a ball but you can’t play football by yourself, there’s 10 other people on the pitch. So, we focus on how we can get all of them up to the level we want them to be at.

What type of programs, initiatives have you introduced in regards to learning opportunities for other coaches at Heidelberg United? What do you provide coaches at the club with?

We provide them with an innovative online session planning and player management system called SoccerPLAY. It’s got hundreds of different sessions and drills that they can use for ideas to create and implement our methodology. Additionally, at any time, we are able to provide feedback to help improve the sessions and the coaches. At the same time, we also do coach to coach sessions and are always looking to improve the program.

We have a new athlete development and high-performance collaboration with Oxidate, headed by Jacob Falla, which is specifically designed to educate the players about football development, physical performance (strength, conditioning, recovery, nutrition) and overall wellbeing. We have a club philosophy which connects all players via the ‘three wheels’, the Skills Phase for our MiniRoos, Growth Phase for our junior NPL teams and Elite Phase involving our seniors. You are trying to build across these wheels to get them into to the top teams at the club. We continually reassess what we are doing across all the different pathways to make the necessary improvements daily, weekly, monthly and yearly.

A snippet of Heidelberg United’s philosophy.

How crucial do you think a national second division is for the progression of youth development in Australian football?

It’s imperative. I’ve actually spoken with James Johnson and his team about it a few times. I think you need more than just a second division; you need a third division. I think that the NPL should be that you go from that league to a third division and so on. The more levels there are, you give more opportunities to the kids in order to develop at the level that they’re at. At the end of the day, we’re not just trying to develop a footballer. We’re trying to develop good boys, good girls, good sons, good daughters, it’s the overall person we are trying to develop…a total footballer.

The women’s side of the game is seeing huge increases in participation numbers and a home Women’s World Cup is on the way in 2023 which will lead to even more playing the game. How important is it capitalise on this and build female youth development standards and produce the next generation of Matildas?

Again, it’s imperative. The girls’ game has gone from A to Z in the last couple of years and it’s only going to continue to grow. The standard of the girls is phenomenal and improving all the time. It’s so important that the football community and country get behind the Women’s World Cup. I’ve coached girls’ teams and their enthusiasm for the game and desire to improve is brilliant. We need to capture that and harness it for both the girls’ and boys’ games to make a better competition for Australian footballers going forward.

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Adelaide Jaguars’ Bronny Brooks on growth, funding struggles, and the future of women’s football

The Adelaide Jaguars are one of South Australia’s biggest female-only soccer clubs and have recently taken on a record high in player registrations following the inspiring Matildas World Cup campaign in 2023.

Despite being one of the biggest clubs in the SA women’s soccer space, the club are yet to find a permanent home. Access to shared council-leased pitches for training and games is dependent on season to season permits, and use of any available space is negotiated with multiple sports each year.

No storage space forces coaches to keep most of the equipment in their own cars for the season, and the absence of a function room makes it difficult for the community to meet, train volunteers, provide athlete education and so much more.

The Jaguars are one of many such stories across the country who require more funding just for basic necessities, while they also work to support a participation surge that they hope to take advantage of.

In a chat with SoccerScene, Club chairperson Bronny Brooks spoke about the incredible growth of the club, how the current grant system can improve for grassroots clubs and the importance of increased funding for women’s soccer following this surge in popularity.

Can you explain just how much the club has grown recently, particularly after the 2023 Women’s World Cup?

Bronny Brooks: Our growth actually started prior to the World Cup. Over the past five years we have had a significant increase in all age groups (MiniRoos, Juniors and Senior community) and so the sport itself was on an upswing.

About four years ago we had about 70 players, this year we registered 320 and next year we will probably top over 350 registered players. The World Cup itself probably had an impact of around 30% and I would say we’ve gained between 100 and 120 players at the club for the 2024 season, following the World Cup.

Image credit: Adelaide Jaguars FC Facebook

The most disappointing thing is that we probably turned away almost 100 players as we lacked the capacity to support the extra players. Limited resources including pitch space, coaches, lighting and many other challenges common in the football community make it difficult to support the growth. We unfortunately couldn’t find a place for everyone and so yes, we increased, but we could’ve probably been a little bit bigger if we had those resources available to us.

The age groups we’ve probably seen the most growth in includes our Community Women’s program. Our women who are 25-30+ , either returning to football or new to football, just want to be a part of it socially and for fitness and enjoy connecting through a team sport. Then of course our little ones, our u7’s for example we had 32 of them join this year which is like a whole class full of u7’s!!

Community women and MiniRoos have been our biggest growth spots whilst juniors are fairly stable mostly because they were already involved in the sport.

Certainly, the support and the interest around those groups along with the spectatorship has all grown as well.

The ABC article suggested that within 12 months, the club would find a permanent home to help store the equipment and the new players. Is there any update on that situation?

Bronny Brooks: The biggest challenge for us is land and land consent. Our club is based in the western suburbs of Adelaide which is built out between the city and the sea, and there’s not a lot of land space available. We have had tremendous support from all levels of government around our community. They love what we do, they love the impact that we make but it’s been really tricky to find space for us to build a home.

We currently operate out of an 8m by 2m converted council coffee room and we have 21 teams so most of our equipment is stored in people’s cars. The club’s playing kit actually travelled in the back of my car for a whole season and coaches have all the balls and cones in their cars, so we’re pretty desperate in terms of even just storage, let alone a new home to bring the community together and train those volunteers.

The government is aware of our challenges. We’ve had a local primary school approach us and offer space which would be a fantastic solution and outside of school hours –  but then the question becomes who would help with funding as it is not council land.

The popularity of the ABC article helped with discussing a solution. I have for the first time ever had local, state and federal government all talking in the same room which has been great, but no one has come up with an actual solution yet.

One of the biggest issues for us as a female sport, and other female sports would experience similar, is that in the years when those land parcels were handed out to footy and cricket clubs, the sports were male-dominated and female clubs didn’t really exist. As a female-only club with a 15 year history, we weren’t around when they were handing out those land parcels and because of that, we need to play catch up somewhere along the line. We need to make it happen so there is some equity in the access to land that female sports have.

With all that in mind, unfortunately, finding a home within 12 months is probably a little bit idealistic at the moment.

Image credit: Adelaide Jaguars FC Facebook

South Australian Government had the “Power of Her” grant program and it seems extremely competitive to earn a grant. What’s your opinion on how they could make that system easier for grassroots clubs?

Bronny Brooks: It’s a very interesting topic. The ‘Power of Her’ is a fantastic initiative because we need to support clubs that are backing women and trying to provide equity to these grassroots clubs.

It’s not only the opportunity to apply that’s important, but also how does the government follow up on the grants? What’s the accountability to make sure that the people receiving the grants are doing the right thing? Historically, what has happened is there are clubs that have only one or two girls’ teams but are majority boys’ teams, and they apply for funding to support their female teams. But the money never actually goes into the women’s game. The funding continues to be immersed into the club as a whole or for equipment that is used by the boys’ teams. We have even known clubs to receive grant money for new female facilities, and then just a few years later they don’t even have a women’s program.

There is money available and there are certainly criteria that we all have to meet but it’s also about meeting those criteria in three years or five years’ time. The question becomes what actually happens to that money?

The ‘Power of Her’ offered $10 million for soccer clubs and $8 million for other sports in the state. With current costs, our club would need $10 million just to build a facility of our own, and lots of other clubs need infrastructure as well, so there isn’t really enough money to go around. Our club is never going to receive the whole amount, understandably, but the amounts available and the structure of the grant limit what you can do to improve the club. We were successful in receiving grant funds for programming and equipment, which is fantastic, but we missed out on finding a solution to a much bigger challenge – that is, securing a venue for a sustainable future.

Image credit: Adelaide Jaguars FC Facebook

Do you believe women’s soccer is getting neglected for other sports by the government and should the revenue made by the Matildas be shared around fairer?

Broony Brooks: Yep, Jags is representative of the grassroots community and I do think there needs to be more support for that level of our sport. It’s so important to build from the bottom up.

Different sporting codes are structured differently, and I don’t have accurate knowledge around how it is all structured through Football Australia or Football SA, but I do know that our fees are really high compared to many sports. We have to pay a lot upfront for our participants, and to cover costs, and there should be more funding support for community football.

You look at our football fees compared to Aussie Rules footy fees. AFL is a bottom up type of organisation and they have funding available for the lowest level. Football in Australia is top down funding – fees in general are just way too high and it makes it quite difficult for players to participate. There are some clubs that charge $1,500+ a season and it’s a huge amount of money for a family. We’re very careful as a community to make sure we never turn away anyone – if they need financial support, we will find a way for them to play.

However, there is only so much capacity for a club to do that. We do all the right things as a club, we work hard to secure sponsorship and fundraise, but there has to be a way where those players and clubs are supported financially. There are so many benefits to playing community sport – the social, mental and physical health impact is massive. What sport does long term for our community is so important, so there’s a health investment the government should consider as well.

I think there should be ways of looking at funding from a long-term perspective, rather than immediate, and then drawing into those funds for having resources available for community clubs.

Ged Searson: Improving the art of football scouting in Australia

The Association of Football Coaches and Scouts (AFCAS) have recently undergone its first recruitment and player scouting workshop, focusing on creating scouting reports while also learning footballing scouting skills and techniques to assess players.

These online workshops are taught by AFCAS Managing Director Ged Searson, who has 15 years of experience to his name as a football scout and almost 30 years of experience as a football coach.

Throughout his footballing journey, Searson got an incredible opportunity to work alongside legendary manager Sir Bobby Robson, while also working in the English Premier League with West Ham United and most recently with the Malawi national team during the 2022 African Cup of Nations (AFCON).

In an interview with Soccerscene, Searson reflects on his experiences as a football scout, what it was like to learn from Sir Bobby Robson, the creation of AFCAS and how he is trying to improve football scouting not only in Europe, but in Australia as well.

How did you start working as a football coach and scout?

Ged Searson: I started coaching when I was 19 due to injury, I wanted to learn and study and hopefully make a career working in football. 

I went to monthly coaching seminars across the UK and Europe and I met up with different coaches at different levels. I just went in with an open book and thought I’m going to learn.

At the same time, I had my own academy in Essex across the road from West Ham’s training ground, working with six-year-olds up to the age of 16. I did that for 13 years, built the program and I had about 350 players a week coming to training at one point.

Later on, I started to work in non-league and semi-professional football. Any club that didn’t have money and was struggling in the relegation zones would ring me up and I would try to get them out of trouble, which was a learning experience.

I didn’t want to continue down the academy coaching route anymore because it wasn’t financially viable for me at the time and then I ended up becoming an opposition scout.

However, I will say to become a scout you must learn and then develop the rest of your career. You must go the extra mile, get off your back and try to learn.

My first opposition report was about Brentford, back when they were in League Two. My friend was working for Barnet and he was doing video analysis and he said can we see your report?

I said I’ll send it over but I’m sure your scouts can do it far better than me and he replied we haven’t got any scouts.

Ian Hendon was the manager at the time at Barnet and just started his coaching career. He said he liked the report and asked me if I could do this every week and that was how I started my career as a football scout.

What were some of the highlights throughout your football career?

Ged Searson: Ian Hendon got his big break where he was asked to become the assistant manager at West Ham United to work under his old manager, Sam Allardyce, and recommended me to the club.

The funny thing was that West Ham was my team as a kid and it was a pure coincidence that I got to work for my own club. I worked as an opposition scout and also did recruitment scouting.

In my first year we got promoted from the Championship, winning the playoffs at Wembley. When you think about it, I won a trophy with the team I support, how good is that?

I spent the next two years in the Premier League which was great and I absolutely loved it.

I left West Ham after three years and was offered to become the chief scout of Grimsby Town. I did the opposition scout reports and the recruitment which I’d learned through my time in the Premier League.

We broke the points tally with the most points in the club’s history within one season and had the best away record of any team in the country. We got to the playoffs finals but lost when it went to penalties, which was hard to take.

In regards to my international career, I got a phone call from the technical director of Malawi at the time, Mario Marinica, who I’ve worked with in the past. He asked if I could come over and do your opposition scouting and create a recruitment and scouting team for us.

Heading into AFCON in Cameroon, we were complete and total outsiders. But because we had put together this recruitment team of the guys I’ve worked with and an analysis team with the scouts that I taught, we had a secret weapon.

We were more organised than any other team going into the tournament and we made history. We beat Zimbabwe and we drew with Senegal, who actually won the tournament that year.

We went through to the last 16 and faced Morocco who beat us 2-1, but it was overall a really good experience.

Ged Searson at Leyton Orient F.C. team photo. (Images supplied by Ged Searson).

What was it like learning from Sir Bobby Robson?

Ged Searson: I was very fortunate to be able to go to PSV Eindhoven when Sir Bobby Robson was coach.

I just contacted him and said, can I come and study with you and learn from you? 

He said absolutely, you’re more than welcome to come over and that was it.

I was 24 at the time and was a young coach. He just took me under his wing.

I was on the training ground with him every day and he had me on the pitch next to him when he was doing his sessions. The supporters thought I was his son or something and they couldn’t work out who this young lad was next to him. 

He looked after me and had quite a few visits there and really got to understand more about the game.

He was very old fashioned, a true gentleman and a football enthusiast. 

There’s lots of lovely tales about him being a nice guy and giving his time to people. I hear those stories and I know they’re true because he did exactly the same as me.

How was AFCAS created and what made you lean into teaching football coaching and scouting to others?

Ged Searson: The English FA started to bring out their Talent ID courses and I saw it advertised and thought I better go and do it. They were doing a scouting course and I was interested.

However, I spent three days on a scouting course that had no scouting on it. It was mainly regulations and safeguarding but there wasn’t any technical scouting in any form. Of course, I learnt some things, but it wasn’t a scouting course.

There was a small section on opposition scouting, but the guy teaching hadn’t really done any opposition scouting and I think I’d done about 650 games as an opposition scout.

Then there was something setting in motion and in the back of my mind I was thinking, I could write something here that could be helpful for scouts.

It was maybe two or three years later I decided to put something together that was technical and could teach the skills that scouts do need.

I thought I’m going to teach this from a chief scout’s view and we started off at Emirates Stadium in London, where I taught my first class.

I had 15-16 people there; whether that would be coaches, agents, scouts or anyone who’s just interested in football.

I started teaching tactical scouting, then was asked to teach recruitment scouting and that’s where it took off.

Ged Searson and the coaches winning an award. (Images Supplied by Ged Searson).

What made you decide to provide these online workshops for people in Australia?

Ged Searson: I did a few morning sessions during lockdown and there seemed to be an awful lot of coaches that were quite interested in the Melbourne area.

The guys seemed desperate to do something and they thought coming to do a workshop seemed to be appropriate.

I met a really good group of guys and they did about three levels with me as well.

For whatever reason, I drifted away and I didn’t do the UK morning workshops. Then recently, I had a few people asking if I would do those workshops again and it was actually agents from Australia.

I said I was happy to do that and so I started lining up the morning sessions again.

From conversations I’ve had with agents, there seems to be players at the moment that are slipping through the net and are being missed out.

They said there’s a need for scouting here to help players get identified and move them into clubs and progress from there.

That’s why I’m trying to help scouting develop in Australia and maybe clubs could use scouts more to try and make sure players don’t slip through the net and help those guys get an opportunity with clubs.

What will we see next from AFCAS moving forward and will we see you make an appearance in Australia?

Ged Searson: The next stage for AFCAS is to now get these courses across the world. 

We’ve created an interactive course where you are learning the necessary skills to observe techniques and assess performances as a scout and a coach.

It would be nice to go over to Australia and do a workshop there if there was any interest by a club. It would be a fantastic opportunity.

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