The NBL Hall Of Famer leading Blacktown City FC into a new era

NBL Hall of Famer Bob Turner has played a pivotal role in a range of sporting organisations over the span of his 40-plus year career.

His illustrious resume includes prominent coaching stints at famous teams such as the Sydney Kings and the Canberra Cannons, where he won back-to-back NBL titles in 1983 and 1984.

Despite these achievements, Turner explained to Soccerscene it was his work with organisations in the sports marketing space that was equally as rewarding.

“I’ve earnt this reputation as a basketball guy, but coaching was only one part of it, it was also the marketing of sport for me which was just as exciting,” he said.

In this capacity, Turner has worked with organisations such as ABL’s Sydney Blue Sox, Speedway, four NBL teams, Jack High Lawn Bowls and more.

His latest project however is with the round-ball game and may be his biggest challenge yet, working with a historic club based in Australian football’s heartland.

Turner was appointed Executive Chairman at NPL side Blacktown City FC earlier this year and he hopes to turn the club into an off-field giant.

“The club has been around 68 years, it’s very credible as far as producing talent and what it’s done in the past,” he said.

“I think on the field they’ve been fantastic, but off the field there wasn’t a lot of emphasis put on getting people to the game or having people aware of who they were, which is something I’ve always enjoyed building on.

Turner knows the area well and believes that the stigma surrounding Blacktown as a city is unfair and not a true depiction of reality.

“The city of Blacktown itself is probably the most misunderstood city in the country,” he said.

“When I was involved at the Sydney Blue Sox I’d say to people ‘come out to a game and they’d say where do you play?’

“I’d tell them the games were at Blacktown and they’d say ‘oh no, I don’t go to Blacktown because of the crime or whatever’.

“It kind of intrigued me why the city is so misunderstood.

“So, I looked at what Blacktown City needed and the city of Blacktown needed and I thought they can both help each other to get this thing going. For me Blacktown City is ripe and ready to own Blacktown and I believe the club can act as a catalyst to assist in igniting pride in this city.”

The former NBL coach understands that promotion through the media is vital when it comes to ultimately helping him achieve his goal of regularly filling the 5,000 capacity Lily Homes Stadium in Sydney’s West.

“In the local media there’s 3 newspapers and 3 radio stations; we are working to secure all six of them as media partners. 3-4 of them are already in,” he said.

Alongside this, Turner himself has a monthly column in ‘Blacktown News’ and has enlisted the help of an agency which provides marketing material for the club, that includes print and radio ads.

While all these factors help considerably, Turner explains that most of all the product that you are selling must be of a good value itself.

“The ingredients to any sporting organisation are you have to play in a good competition, you have to have teams people want to go watch and you have to be good,” he said.

Blacktown City, are currently doing more than good. After eight games the senior men’s side sit on top of the table in NPL NSW in a competition that features other former NSL clubs such as Sydney United, Sydney Olympic, Marconi Stallions and Wollongong Wolves.

Turner credits the strong start to coach Mark Crittenden’s coaching methods and he hopes the club stays in the championship hunt throughout the season.

“It comes down to the coach and the recruitment of the right players,” he said.

“What I’m fascinated by is we play a lot of these teams in the competition who will spend more money than we do. They recruit some of our players, but it doesn’t affect our culture or standards.

“The first time I met Mark Crittenden, he was my kind of coach. He’s what I like as a coach, it’s what I tried to be as a coach. Someone who develops a culture and makes it clear that the club is far more important than any one player, coach or anybody.

“I see what he does with players and how they react to him and that’s why we are winning.”

Turner emphasises that the club wants to replicate this success with Blacktown’s female program and claims they must capitalise on the upcoming Women’s World Cup in 2023.

“If we have a women’s team with the same culture as the men’s team, the same ability to develop talent, we’ll be right up there,” he said.

“Next year we want the women to be in NPL2 and 2023 we want them to be in NPL1.

“We need to start to show that our commitment is both ways and it will also help us with potential funding for improvements to our changerooms and our ground.”

 

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Philip Panas is a sports journalist with Soccerscene. He reports widely on football policy and industry matters, drawing on his knowledge and passion of the game.

Nathan Perrone on Western United’s Science in Sport extension: “It’s a privilege to be able to continue with them”

Western United have recently agreed a two-year extension with Science in Sport (SiS) to remain as its Official Performance Nutrition Partner.

This confirmation will allow the club and its academy players to continue to gain access to SiS’s award-winning sports expertise and nutrition products such as their energy gels and recovery powders.

Since collaborating in November 2020, the pair has seen success together with Western United being crowned as A-League Men champions in 2022.

Soccerscene spoke with Commercial Partnerships Executive at Western United, Nathan Perrone, who discusses the journey with SiS, the reasons to extend its partnership with the global nutrition brand and what the future holds for the pair over the next two years.

How did Western United and SiS initially come together as partners in November 2020?

Nathan Perrone: It came together through our Lead Strength and Conditioning Coach at the time, Andrew Rondinelli.

“Rondo” as he’s known, currently works for the GWS Giants and left Western United at the end of the 2022/23 season. He was a big advocate for SiS and had used them in the past at other clubs.

It worked within Australia and the sporting landscape and Andrew Pirchan (former Commercial Partnerships Manager at Western United) managed to organise a deal.

They’ve been a fantastic partner and contributor to the high-performance side for our A-League teams, and I know the strength and conditioning staff really appreciate what they can provide.

SiS have not only collaborated with other football clubs across the world but have worked in other sports such as cycling and rowing. What made SiS stand out from other nutrition brands?

Nathan Perrone: They’re a global brand that works with some of the top performers in the world.

Seeing the likes of Spurs that they work with and hearing their involvements, I think it bodes well for our high-performance team because they want our players to be provided with the best nutrition possible, the supplements and whatever is needed to help increase their performance and recovery.

I’m not the expert in this space and with a lot of these football related partnerships, I play an element from a business lens but a lot of it comes down to the players and staff.

If it’s a product that they like and support, I take their best practice and their advice, and they’re all key.

They’ve acknowledged to us that they wanted to try and keep one club in the A-League, and they didn’t want to support other clubs in Victoria or interstate.

It’s nice to hear from them overseas that they want to just back us and go all in on one club. It’s a privilege to be able to continue with them.

SiS nutrition products. Image credit: Brentford FC website

What are the factors that led to this extended partnership with SiS and would you say Western United winning the A-League Championship in 2022 contributed to that?

Nathan Perrone: I’d like to think Tom (Global Head of Elite Sport at SiS) would think it’s part of it. Ultimately it has an impact, and you don’t want to provide the players with products that aren’t top standard.

For us, it was a no brainer coming to the end of the last agreement and there wasn’t really any doubt from my mind, the football staff or Tom’s for that matter.

For both of us, we just want to get better at trying to elevate the partnership and we’re doing what we can to help promote and support them in Australia, especially.

We can continue to expose ourselves to other clubs they work with as well and learn best practice.

What will we see next in this partnership between Western United and SiS and could we see the latter having an increased role as a partner of the club?

Nathan Perrone: The scale of going to jersey branding is probably unlikely at this point. I know they’ve recently done a big deal with Rugby Australia, for example, so they’re definitely wanting to increase their footprint.

We have a new contact, Sean Morley, who works at Nutrition APAC, playing a key role in distribution of SiS in Australia.

He’s going to be more hands on with us to try to do some more giveaways or digital content with the players to really enhance it on that level.

That’s their big play in trying to break into local clubs and the NPL, but they really want to become top of mind in Australia for professional athletes and others as well.

Football Victoria CEO Chris Pehlivanis on the 2024-2028 Strategic Framework: “We’ll either succeed or fail together”

Football Victoria (FV) has released its ‘Our Football’ Strategic Framework for the next four years, with CEO Chris Pehlivanis at the heart of its creation.

Having been with Western United as CEO for four years between 2019-2023 prior to joining FV, Pehlivanis is now heading towards his first full year in the member federation.

Knowing what it takes to lay the foundations and see it grow from an A-League club’s inception, it is now set to start again through a dedicated Strategic Framework.

In an interview with Soccerscene, Pehlivanis discusses his footballing journey so far, each of the strategic pillars and how he will work to support the needs and requirements of the game.

A general shot of The Home of the Matildas in Bundoora from the Dockerty Cup Final. Image credit: Mark Avellino Photography

What led you into football and ultimately the CEO role at FV?

Chris Pehlivanis: I’ve been involved in football a long time, where I initially started playing for East Bentleigh Soccer Club when I was a young tucker, for about 10 years. I was also involved with Bentleigh United Cobras.

For 20 years I was also a referee, and then through my professional career I landed a job at Football Australia as finance manager. That was my first taste of sport where I went on to spend 8-9 years with the Essendon Football Club in a CFO role.

I love my football and the ability to help shape the game in this state is why I’m excited about being CEO.

I’ve also got a young boy who also plays and he’s 10 years old. He’s a goalkeeper and I still enjoy it from a parent’s point of view but also seeing the future of the sport first-hand in this state which is growing at substantial rates.

It’s very fun going back to grassroots; goalkeeper is the position my son has chosen, and he loves it. We’re going on a journey with him so it’s exciting.

What did you see in FV to make that jump?

Chris Pehlivanis: I thought it was a good opportunity to really help shape the game at a larger level, with clubs having nearly 100,000 registered participants in this state.

For the first time we also have a key asset, being The Home of the Matildas and commercialising it. Mainly, working with all the different levels of football in this state is the exciting part.

The Home of the Matildas is an asset which we haven’t had in the past, and everyone is just coming to terms with what that actually means and how we can use it for the benefit of the game.

It’s a good opportunity for government to see what they’ve contributed towards and the benefit at all different levels.

For example, we recently hosted the 2024 Girl’s National Youth Championships, showcasing our world-class facility and giving participants from across Australia a memorable experience.

Victoria and Queensland in a battle of the states during the 2024 National Youth Championships Girls’ Tournament. Image credit: Mark Avellino

What is the potential growth going to be like in Bundoora?

Chris Pehlivanis: We’re working with the Victorian State Government, Federal Government, and La Trobe University to look at what Stage 2 of this facility holds. It’s early days, but we’ve got some plans that we’re discussing with all the relevant parties.

The real opportunity is to work with everyone to develop something that delivers on a lot more for the football community, which can be increased capacity or additional pitches for the football family. It really makes it feel like a home for football.

On the Strategic Framework, one of the pillars is clubs and competitions, can you share more on the service proposition and delivery to regional football?

Chris Pehlivanis: It’s really helping our clubs become stronger and supporting them.

Each club is uniquely different, so there’s not one size fits all, but what is important is our ability to work with those clubs to really enhance the value proposition to their members and to their football community, and that’s what our role is, no matter what league they play in.

Equally as important is to increase the value proposition to the football family, because historically we haven’t really focused on retention. It will be important to understand why people are exiting the pyramid at whatever stage they do, and doing everything we can to keep them engaged with the game for longer periods.

Oakleigh Cannons and South Melbourne in the 2024 Dockerty Cup Final. Image credit: Mark Avellino.

Another pillar is the participation with a focus on gender equity. What do you hope to achieve?

Chris Pehlivanis: Off the back of the Women’s World Cup, we’ve seen enormous growth, and with that becomes a lot of opportunity.

What is critical is to make sure that we’re ready to do that in the right way.

It needs to be done in a manner that is really engaging, safe, and ensures our female participants have a great experience.

Our growth is more than 20% overall in the game, and for females it increases to 30% – with that will still come some growing pains, especially around facilities.

I think it’s a big competitive advantage we have in the female game. The foundations of our sport are solid for female participation, so our job is to take that and really use it to provide a genuine, engaging and high-performing pathway for females and be the sport of choice in this state and country.

Our job is to make sure we continue to drive additional value – be it through coaching, extra facilities, better competitions – where all that needs to come to the forefront. Because the game will continue to grow, and the future is very bright.

There is also an emphasis on pathways for emerging players, can you elaborate?

Chris Pehlivanis: We want to bring a real sense of pride back into representing Victoria and being part of the state programs.

I think that’s been lost in our journey in the last couple of years which will mean a really big focus on high performance on and off the field – through technical coaching, physios, nutrition and all areas that we’re going to focus on to provide a genuine pathway and we’re looking to produce as many future stars as we can.

Maja Markovski in action during the 2024 Nike FC Cup Final at The Home of the Matildas. Image credit: surbevskiphotography.

Are there any initiatives you would bring in for that?

Chris Pehlivanis: It would be done through our NTC program and the expansion of it. The foundations in these programs are very solid, it’s about taking them to the next level – which in the NTC Review gave us a lot of recommendations.

There are key elements that we want to implement into our programs that will drive the user experience to a very much higher standard.

When you do play for your state, it’s all about showing pride and you’re representing every footballer in the state.

You mentioned that facilities are a sticking point, what’s been done so far?

Chris Pehlivanis: In the first six months of my role, I’ve did a lot of club visits, and I would say nine out of 10 clubs have put this as the number one priority to support facilities.

Every time I hear this, it means clubs are turning away participants and I think that’s unacceptable for a variety of reasons. Our role is to support the clubs in that journey and work with all levels of government to secure additional facilities.

What I say to clubs is quite simple; we’ll either succeed or fail together. But be assured we’re going to do this together and we’re going to provide you as much support as we can to secure more infrastructure for our game.

However, we’ve had success in this space so it’s also important to show people we care.

There’s room for a lot of improvement and plenty of opportunities to secure facilities to allow us to play a game that keeps growing at a strong rate.

The 2024 National Youth Championships Boys’ Tournament, hosted in Wollongong. Image credit: Damian Briggs / Football Australia.

What do you see in the game’s future and FV’s role to play?

Chris Pehlivanis: We are going to build unity within the game, where there has been a lack of it and hasn’t given us the best opportunity to be successful.

It ensures that we all work together for a common goal and not have an individual mindset which has been at the forefront of our game for many years.

In my short time here, I’ve brought in a GM of Commercial with a real focus on creating additional revenue streams for our game.

This is so we can reinvest in initiatives that will future-proof the game, but also continue to grow it.

The Home of the Matildas also needs to be commercialised. It gives us more relevance in that space and secure some decent funding for our game for the first time.

We’ve got people & culture and capability, making sure we’ve got the right employees here to deliver our strategy.

From a culture point of view, we want to make sure that everyone’s aligned and living the values.

One of the big things that I’ll enforce in this Strategic Framework will be accountability, because that’s the only way we can go forward and will be an area that I’ll continue to drive.

To view the Strategic Framework in full, you can do so here.

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